Notes

Simon / Richter

ledge roll if they throw an axe, charge fsmash, or throw a holy water if you are at ledge. these are all laggy moves and you might even punish them for using them. If they have thrown a holy water when you got to ledge, they are safe to throw out something else. Their ledge options are specific and do need precise spacing to make work. get them off stage. they have a tether recovery and an up b that go a lackluster distance, and they have terrible air mobility, its kind of like ganons. They can barely make it back to stage with a jump, let alone without one.